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	<title>Comments on: I gave up on Zsh</title>
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		<title>By: Derek Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.derekwyatt.org/2012/02/14/i-gave-up-on-zsh/comment-page-1/#comment-105960</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It went away with some setting that I put in, but I don&#039;t know which one :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It went away with some setting that I put in, but I don&#8217;t know which one :)</p>
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		<title>By: Zoltan</title>
		<link>http://www.derekwyatt.org/2012/02/14/i-gave-up-on-zsh/comment-page-1/#comment-103510</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoltan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t found the multiline prompt issue in zsh&#039;s bug database. Is it true that it&#039;s not raised yet as a bug report?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t found the multiline prompt issue in zsh&#8217;s bug database. Is it true that it&#8217;s not raised yet as a bug report?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.derekwyatt.org/2012/02/14/i-gave-up-on-zsh/comment-page-1/#comment-70822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ZSH is no better than BASH, but it&#039;s *much* more complex, *much* less widely used and standardised on and the default extra features are just crap.

The BASH defaults are sane. The ZSH defaults are just desperately trying to wow BASH users with look-at-me features, which in reality are just annoying as hell and not useful.

Fuck ZSH. It&#039;s not worth the effort or the added complexity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZSH is no better than BASH, but it&#8217;s *much* more complex, *much* less widely used and standardised on and the default extra features are just crap.</p>
<p>The BASH defaults are sane. The ZSH defaults are just desperately trying to wow BASH users with look-at-me features, which in reality are just annoying as hell and not useful.</p>
<p>Fuck ZSH. It&#8217;s not worth the effort or the added complexity.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.derekwyatt.org/2012/02/14/i-gave-up-on-zsh/comment-page-1/#comment-69019</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it was really that it was &quot;worse&quot; than bash - I think it was that it&#039;s no better than bash.  I&#039;ve since moved to ZSH and ported over my BASH stuff to improve it, but the only reason I&#039;m staying is because I&#039;m there now :)  ZSH doesn&#039;t really seem to have much for me that makes it a &quot;must have&quot; over BASH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it was really that it was &#8220;worse&#8221; than bash &#8211; I think it was that it&#8217;s no better than bash.  I&#8217;ve since moved to ZSH and ported over my BASH stuff to improve it, but the only reason I&#8217;m staying is because I&#8217;m there now :)  ZSH doesn&#8217;t really seem to have much for me that makes it a &#8220;must have&#8221; over BASH.</p>
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		<title>By: brh</title>
		<link>http://www.derekwyatt.org/2012/02/14/i-gave-up-on-zsh/comment-page-1/#comment-68842</link>
		<dc:creator>brh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really think that starting out with (or, using at all) Oh-My-Zsh adds a lot more complication than simplification to zsh. It makes things rather overwhelming right from the start. Going through the default zshrc config process and choosing basic options gets a user started in a fairly familiar place. Using compatibility options is a fine way to ease in. Granted, none of this matters if you&#039;re satisfied with bash anyway.

Multiline prompt support is weird in zsh; the solution is to print your upper line inside the precmd function. AFAIK there is no good way to do a multiline right prompt. But then, (again AFAIK) there&#039;s no good way to do a right prompt period in bash.

Curious how you consider the directory stack to be worse than bash? I&#039;ve personally found very little difference save for having more control over the stack(s) in zsh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think that starting out with (or, using at all) Oh-My-Zsh adds a lot more complication than simplification to zsh. It makes things rather overwhelming right from the start. Going through the default zshrc config process and choosing basic options gets a user started in a fairly familiar place. Using compatibility options is a fine way to ease in. Granted, none of this matters if you&#8217;re satisfied with bash anyway.</p>
<p>Multiline prompt support is weird in zsh; the solution is to print your upper line inside the precmd function. AFAIK there is no good way to do a multiline right prompt. But then, (again AFAIK) there&#8217;s no good way to do a right prompt period in bash.</p>
<p>Curious how you consider the directory stack to be worse than bash? I&#8217;ve personally found very little difference save for having more control over the stack(s) in zsh.</p>
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